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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Apr 27, 2013 5:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Thoughts on best recordings that replicate what the band actually sounded like

Thanks for the input folks. Had a chance to listen to a number of tunes the last couple of days, but just getting back here to respond. To be honest, I still have a hard time listening to aud tapes, yes they do allow for the feeling of being there and the music coming at you rather than from another direction. There are some that give me the sense of the volumes that you heard, but far too many where the sound is just not clean enough for my liking. I do love the feeling you get of how much the audience enjoyed a song or parts of one, but at the same time with the mics picking up everything find the audience chatter much louder than you would hear at a show.
Not quitting on the aud tapes yet, just need to listen to more. However, with all the dead I have and still trying to listen to once for some, the aud tapes might be a ways off. I do follow this forum most days for a tip or two on something that I should listen to, but not nearly versed enough as many of you here on the whole dead volume of work.
I do have a hard time at this point w/ anything beyond 1980 as the loss of Keith and Donna was a major blow in my mind and adding Brent was a major step backwards in my view. Maybe, I'll come to appreciate these changes later, but there just so much great stuff pre-Brent that the clock might time-out before that's possible

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Poster: ghost of Monte Date: Apr 27, 2013 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: one of the best recordings that replicate what the band actually sounded like

Welcome to My Crib

Hey kids, can you keep a secret?
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The Sound was incredible!

I was a Hippie kid when I taped the Grateful Dead in 1973

read the full story about these tapes
June 9 & 10 - Taper's Gauntlet reveals an Orgy of Sound

Did you listen to my tapes?

Grateful Dead and Allman Bros - RFK Stadium - June 9, 1973

Allman Bros and Grateful Dead - RFK Stadium - June 10, 1973

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Taping Equipment

Sony TC 2850 SD portable stereo cassette recorder
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Sony ECM 99 stereo mic

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Poster: DeadEncore Date: Apr 27, 2013 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: one of the best recordings that replicate what the band actually sounded like

Thanks Ghost os M. Enjoyed following the many links and most of all the link to the 66 soundboard show. Blown away about the sound quality from any recording from that period, but this collection was astounding. Great to early early versions of songs that evolved throughout the the years.
Loved your aud tape from 73, which might (depending on my mood) my favorite dead year. Favorite though, doesn't really matter and love the fact that my faves keep flowing.
Your tape is great and truly has the feeling of the sound that the band produced, but kind of brings my whole question around full circle. Having attended a number of shows your production does give you an unmixed felling of what it sounded like, but then again the 66 soundboard probably sounds more of the real thing than the 73 aud.
I guess the reality is that the sound can never be duplicated. On the aud front you get a truer sound, but never the full sound that a patched soundboard can produce. The downside of the soundboard is that someone is mixing it to their like, but is not actually what's coming at the audience.
On the truly bright side is that we all have so many options to listen to the dead and on the highest level so many different versions that in so many ways attract you because they are different. I wonderif we will ever see the day where the dead release a concert to the fans and let them mix it as they see fit and see what happens. I'm guessing at some level that is already possible with the right equipment, but see a day where a contest for the best mix might be worthwhile.